I would like to point out, that religion has been used, and id like to stress again: by humans, to warrant claims on other people’s properties, freedom and many times their right to live. The crusades werent inspired by God himself, they were the workings of a Pope that wanted the European noble families stop fighting amongst eachother. The Jihad hasnt been called by Allah, its been called by religious fanatic idiots who’s sole purpose is to ensure their own power grows. Even today the many religious groups (can I call them sects?) who preach that there will be no salvation and that you will burn in hell for eternity only do so because they have a megalomaniac, powerhungry leader that has absolutely no regard for the mental well being of his ‘followers’, making them live in constant fear.

Join me, as a humanist, and live by a few simple rules: make sure you can live with yourself and your actions in honesty and take care of your fellow men and women which are in need of it. Strive to make the world a better place for all, not just your small marginalized group of brainwashed idiots.

I don’t go to church but instead go to mexico every sunday and take clothes to poor families. I gives poor children food and when i come home i bring home a homeless animal and give them a new home.

Am I evil because of this. I believe that instead of wasting my time on praying for something to happen i instead go out and do something to help better the world. Is that a sin?

And also in the pledge of allegiance it’s not one nation under god,, it’s supposed to be one nation under citizens rule. because last time i checked it was not god who chooses our presidents, there is no divine right in our nation of america. But it is the people who run this country.

Wow i am only seventeen but i understand alot of things. And what you people are saying about this is total segregation and discrimination. they guys are the nazis and the atheists are the jews.

Do they want to kill the atheists too? i hope not.

Stop attacking other people. Just because it makes you feel powerful. People become dictators this way.

lets have peace…

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1) There absolutely is inconsistency. Yes, there are differences, but still inconsistencies.

2) Right… but who draws the line on underage relationships? The government does. Why should we discriminate against those who are supposedly underage. Why 18? Why shouldn’t 16 be underage? Is it inconceiveable that a 17 year-old is more mature and ready for marriage than an 18 year old? Why should they have to wait? Why discriminate against them? Why not champion their rights as well?

3) This is laughable. Now you’re rationalizing “discrimination” on the basis of “well, it would be hard to change some laws.” So? If it’s truly discrimination, and you champion basic human rights to marriage for all, then shouldn’t you be fighting as well to find a way to legalize it? So what you’re saying is that you champion basic civil rights to marriage for all unless it seems to be too complicated. Then discrimination is OK.

The point is it is disingenous for those who say everyone should have a right to marriage, goverment shouldn’t intrude, yada, yada, yada, and then they themselves support drawing lines (i.e. “discriminating” against some) when it comes to marriage.

All of this is not to say homosexual marriage should not be legalized; it’s just to point out the hypocrisy in so many who champion its legalization.

Underage relationships? Absolutely not. People who are not of legal age of consent cannot enter freely into a legally binding contract.

Polygamous relationships are a more complicated issue from a legal standpoint. They would require an entirely new set of laws concerning taxes, communal property, and power of attorney.

Legalizing same sex marriage doesn’t raise any complicated legal issues. It would still be the exact same legally binding contract between two adults with the same rights, responsibilities, and privileges as straight marriage.

So I assume you also champion the right to marriage for those in polygamous relationships, underage relationships, and consensual familial relationships? Because, afterall, they are discriminated against as well. If you don’t, why not? That would seem rather inconsistent if you don’t, since you argue all are entitled to basic human rights.

Numbers 31: 25-40 PEDOPHILY
John: 30 Jesus: “I and the Father are one.”

25. And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
26. Take the sum of the prey that was taken, both of man and of beast, thou, and Eleazar the priest, and the chief fathers of the congregation:
27. And divide the prey into two parts; between them that took the war upon them, who went out to battle, and between all the congregation:
28. And levy a tribute unto the LORD of the men of war which went out to battle: one soul of five hundred, both of the persons,(including the little girls) and of the beeves, and of the asses, and of the sheep:
29. Take it of their half, and give it unto Eleazar the priest, for an heave offering of the LORD.
30. And of the children of Israel’s half, thou shalt take one portion of fifty, of the persons(including the little girls), of the beeves, of the asses, and of the flocks, of all manner of beasts, and give them unto the Levites, which keep the charge of the tabernacle of the LORD.
31. And Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the LORD commanded Moses.
32. And the booty, being the rest of the prey which the men of war had caught, was six hundred thousand and seventy thousand and five thousand sheep,
33. And threescore and twelve thousand beeves,
34. And threescore and one thousand asses,
35. And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.
36. And the half, which was the portion of them that went out to war, was in number three hundred thousand and seven and thirty thousand and five hundred sheep:
37. And the LORD’S tribute of the sheep was six hundred and threescore and fifteen.
38. And the beeves were thirty and six thousand; of which the LORD’S tribute was threescore and twelve.
39. And the asses were thirty thousand and five hundred; of which the LORD’S tribute was threescore and one.
40. And the persons(including little girls) were sixteen thousand; of which the LORD’S tribute was thirty and two persons.(preteen girls)

In the verse 35 we are told that Jews caught as booty 32.000 preteen girls for themselves.

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